The counter and follow trend systems have basic similarities and differences in every trader's view, when one trader uses the H4 time frame reference where the trend reads is bullish then if he opens a position according to his time frame reference, it includes follow but if the other trader uses a larger time frame reference when following the trend, the trader who uses the H4 reference will say that the open position made looks counter, so this point of view is not something that is standard in trading.