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Why it's seems all indicators and news are fake? I dont know weather you are realize or not, but everytime we follow any indicator and news, its seems like they are chiting us. Let me tell you my side story....indicators and chat will be appear after markets doing action, and market will be action a few minutes after/before news was released. And news was released because every country must keep they exchange rate to another in balance. So there is nothing to do between indicators and news with price's movement. they just follow  the price's movement. Why should we follow them?;D

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#1 - February 04, 2019, 10:26:00 AM

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where can you describe the technical and fundamental things that are not in line?
#2 - February 04, 2019, 10:48:46 AM

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All indicators do not have 100% accuracy. Sometimes it can be wrong and sometimes it can be true. That's why we have to be disciplined with the trading plan that we have made. It's best not to be too easy to believe with the analysis made by other people. Stay true to the trading plan that we make ourselves
#3 - February 04, 2019, 12:49:16 PM

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Indicator is only helped tool, there is no perfect indicator of this arena, if we losing money because follow indicator, its not mean indicator is fake, because usually indicator take previous data and with certain formula used to predict movement ahead, but we know if market is dynamic, there are so many factors the cause of movement, we should learn all the thing 
#4 - February 04, 2019, 02:29:15 PM

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Quote from: rushart on February 04, 2019, 10:26:00 AM
Why it's seems all indicators and news are fake? I dont know weather you are realize or not, but everytime we follow any indicator and news, its seems like they are chiting us. Let me tell you my side story....indicators and chat will be appear after markets doing action, and market will be action a few minutes after/before news was released. And news was released because every country must keep they exchange rate to another in balance. So there is nothing to do between indicators and news with price's movement. they just follow  the price's movement. Why should we follow them?;D
Technical and fundamental analysis is very complicated, so don't judge both types of analysis before we really master them.

In addition to technical and fundamental analysis there is still an analysis of market sentiment / psychology where the analysis is more difficult than the two analyzes you mentioned. That is what makes the market seem to be incompatible with technical or fundamental analysis.
#5 - February 04, 2019, 04:44:37 PM

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where can you describe the technical and fundamental things that are not in line?
As I wrote: everytime we follow any indicator and news, its seems like they are chiting us. Thats why there is a scale in any indi,coz' even the creators of its know that indi is absurd.
#6 - February 05, 2019, 01:34:51 AM

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Technical and fundamental analysis is very complicated, so don't judge both types of analysis before we really master them.

In addition to technical and fundamental analysis there is still an analysis of market sentiment / psychology where the analysis is more difficult than the two analyzes you mentioned. That is what makes the market seem to be incompatible with technical or fundamental analysis.


So....means that you didn't catch what I meant.  Read carefuly hehehe...
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Indicator is only helped tool, there is no perfect indicator of this arena, if we losing money because follow indicator, its not mean indicator is fake, because usually indicator take previous data and with certain formula used to predict movement ahead, but we know if market is dynamic, there are so many factors the cause of movement, we should learn all the thing 

Who said market is DYNAMIC? Market is always REGULARITY from time to time!
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Quote from: rushart on February 05, 2019, 01:34:51 AM
where can you describe the technical and fundamental things that are not in line?
As I wrote: everytime we follow any indicator and news, its seems like they are chiting us. Thats why there is a scale in any indi,coz' even the creators of its know that indi is absurd.
Don't depend too much on the Indicator because it is only a tool. It's better to learn price action. I myself have stopped using indicators and are using Chart patern more.
#9 - February 05, 2019, 01:17:02 PM

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Quote from: zanurreload on February 05, 2019, 01:17:02 PM
Don't depend too much on the Indicator because it is only a tool. It's better to learn price action. I myself have stopped using indicators and are using Chart patern more.
yup,but in opinion its the same with charts pattern. Technical and fundamental are feak. both of them!!!
#10 - February 05, 2019, 01:21:06 PM

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Quote from: rushart on February 05, 2019, 01:21:06 PM
yup,but in opinion its the same with charts pattern. Technical and fundamental are feak. both of them!!!
Technical and fundamental are equally important. How can you trade without Fundamental and Technical. What we need to do is learn well about technical and fundamental
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Quote from: zanurreload on February 05, 2019, 01:23:44 PM
Technical and fundamental are equally important. How can you trade without Fundamental and Technical. What we need to do is learn well about technical and fundamental
hehehe...have you read my tread at education forum with YIN YANG METHOD title?! read carefuly than you'll understand!
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Quote from: zanurreload on February 05, 2019, 01:17:02 PM
Don't depend too much on the Indicator because it is only a tool. It's better to learn price action. I myself have stopped using indicators and are using Chart patern more.
indicators are only analyzing market movements, helping us to see where the trend is going, so we can make buy or sell options. understanding indicators we can use these indicators over and over again,
#13 - February 05, 2019, 01:27:13 PM

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Quote from: Fxortrader on February 05, 2019, 01:27:13 PM
indicators are only analyzing market movements, helping us to see where the trend is going, so we can make buy or sell options. understanding indicators we can use these indicators over and over again,
yes right sir. But using too many indicators in one chart will make us confused, because it is not uncommon for one indicator to another to conflict. If I am more comfortable trading without indicators.
#14 - February 05, 2019, 01:31:56 PM

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Quote from: Fxortrader on February 05, 2019, 01:27:13 PM
indicators are only analyzing market movements, helping us to see where the trend is going, so we can make buy or sell options. understanding indicators we can use these indicators over and over again,
the question is....how many time you feel that chart or news was tricking you? hehehe...
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